comparing the four exit variants — how do you judge #3 vs #4 fairly?

Been chewing on the strategy library piece that puts four intraday exits side by side against the same entry. I like the framing a lot, I've spent years telling people their entry is the least interesting part of their system and it's nice to see it laid out as an actual experiment instead of a lecture. Where I'm stuck is the last two. The giveback rule (exit if you retreat 1% off the peak once you're up 1.5%) and the breakeven-after-it-works rule look like they're solving the same problem but they pay for it differently. Giveback lets a trade come back a fair way before it kicks you out. Breakeven basically says once you've been up, you're not allowed to lose. On paper #4 sounds like the more disciplined choice and my checklist brain wants to like it, but I suspect it also chops a lot of trades that would have gone on to hit the 3% target after a normal wobble. So my question for people who've actually run this: what's your comparison rule? Because I don't trust myself to just look at four equity curves and pick a winner. My draft checklist is: 1. Same entry, same symbols, same session hours, nothing else touched. 2. Same number of trades in each run, or at least close enough that I'm not comparing 400 trades to 90. 3. Judge on worst losing streak and worst drawdown first, total return second. 4. Look at what fraction of trades exit on each clause. Target, stop, time, trail. If one clause never fires it's decoration. 5. Split the sample in half and check the ranking holds in both halves. Is point 4 worth the effort or am I making busywork for myself? And does anyone bother testing the two giveback thresholds separately (the 1.5% arm level and the 1.0% pullback) or is that where you start fitting noise?
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PremarketPete· May 2026 ago
- run #1 first as your baseline, always. everything else is measured against it - log the exit reason on every trade, yes it's worth it - my #3 was firing the trail on like 4% of trades once i checked. dead code basically - 20 min vs 30 min time exit changed more for me than the trail settings did
BacktestBetty· May 2026 ago· edited Aug 2026 ago
Three things. (1) Your point 4 is the single most useful item on that list, don't drop it — an exit clause that fires on 2% of trades is not a strategy difference, it's rounding. (2) Careful with your point 2: forcing equal trade counts is not really possible here because the exits don't change entries, they change what happens after, so counts should already match unless something's off with overlapping positions. Check that first. (3) On tuning the two giveback numbers separately, that's exactly where I've burned myself. Two thresholds, five values each, twenty-five combinations, one of them will look wonderful and it will be luck. If you must, test 1.5/1.0 against something clearly different like 3.0/2.0, not 1.5/1.0 against 1.6/0.9.
CryptoKarl· May 2026 ago
the breakeven one is psychologically great and mathematically annoying, thats been my experience. on perps i ran something close to #4 and it kept saving me from full stops while quietly deleting my best runners. #3 is the compromise i actually stuck with. also fyi the time exit matters way more than people expect, dead trades are a real cost even when they close flat
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NightOwl_Yuki· May 2026 ago
your checklist point 5 is the one i'd never skip, everything else is negotiable :) i split by session instead of by halves though since overnight and daytime behave differently for me
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