the equities cost study — does any of it carry over to perps?

so i read that research piece on this site where they walked market buys down the recorded ask ladder on US stocks, millions of quotes, and compared the actual quantity weighted fill against the mid. main takeaway for me wasn't even the cost number, it was that a decent chunk of the time a normal-ish order size couldn't be filled inside the whole visible book they recorded. that one made me sit up. i trade perps mostly, so i don't have a stock problem, i have a me problem. my backtests assume mid fill. always have. i tell myself perp books on the big pairs are deep enough that it doesn't matter, and honestly for BTC/ETH size i'm probably not lying to myself too badly. but i also take stuff on smaller alt perps where the book thins out fast, and i've never once measured what walking it actually costs me. i just eyeball the ladder before i click and go "yeah looks fine". questions i can't answer from the article: 1. their method is level-by-level against recorded depth. do any of you actually record book snapshots for the pairs you trade, or do you just reconcile fills vs mid after the fact from your own trade log? the second one is way less work but it only tells you about sizes you already traded, not the size you're thinking of scaling to. 2. the article is stocks in regular hours. perps are 24/7 and the book at a dead hour is a totally different animal to the book during a funding-driven squeeze. a single median cost number seems useless for me — surely it has to be conditional on volatility or spread regime? 3. more of a philosophical one. if i subtract a realistic cost from my backtests and half my strategies stop working, is the correct response to trade fewer things, or to trade the same things at smaller size less often? my gut says the first but my gut is a degen. not looking for a magic number, just want to know how people here actually estimate this instead of guessing like i've been doing.
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IndicatorSkeptic· Aug 2026 ago
ah yes, the annual ritual where someone discovers that the price you see is not the price you get. welcome, we have jackets. seriously though your point 2 is the whole thing — a median across all conditions is an average of a calm book and a book that isn't there, and you never trade the average.
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HalfKelly· Aug 2026 ago
Your third question is the interesting one and it isn't really a fills question, it's a sizing one. Cost per trade scales roughly with how much of the book you eat, but your edge per trade doesn't grow with size at all past a point, so halving size doesn't halve your cost, it usually more than halves it, while your expected return just halves cleanly. That asymmetry is why the answer is often "same strategies, smaller clips, and drop the ones whose edge was smaller than the cost you were ignoring." Which is basically your first option and your second option holding hands.
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DrawdownDave· Aug 2026 ago
i learned point 1 the expensive way, reconciled a year of my own fills against mid once and the gap was a lot bigger than the fixed haircut i'd been subtracting in testing. the strategy wasn't bad, my accounting was. didn't stop me from doing it again in a different market, mind.
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GapHunterMike· 29d ago
record the book. own trade log only shows you sizes you survived. alt perps at a dead hour is where it gets you. spread looks fine, depth behind it is air. split the order or don't take the trade.
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