RESEARCH

For our founding members: 7,137 trades, doubts included

Study details

Measured
January 2 to July 31, 2026, 09:30 to 11:00 ET, one-second recorded data
Instruments
US equities, one-second recordings replayed through our own engine with quote and trade data used for fills
Method
replay each session from stored one-second data and apply a fixed rule set with no discretion. Fills are decided against the recorded quote and the printed tape rather than by assuming a bar that touches a price would have filled
Result
7,137 trades at a 63.6% win rate and a profit factor of 1.84, averaging 0.17% per trade over an average hold of 6m 7s, with a 0.9% maximum drawdown. The two months retained in full detail are reported below, together with the parts we have not settled
Contents
Twenty of you signed up when there was nothing here but a claim and an installer. That is not a small thing to have done, and we have not forgotten who was first. So this goes to you before it goes anywhere else, and it goes to you whole, doubts included. Not a summary, not the flattering half. The full result, the two months we still have in complete detail, everything we already went looking for, and the one number we do not believe yet. The rules themselves are sent to founding members directly rather than posted here.

1. What was run

A systematic US equity strategy with no discretion in it anywhere, replayed against our own one-second recordings from January 2 to July 31, 2026 inside the 09:30 to 11:00 ET window. Positions are short lived, 6m 7s on average. It is not the relative volume signal we wrote about earlier. That work showed high relative volume was good at telling us a stock was about to move and useless at telling us which way. The conditions here are different ones. The fill logic is where results like this usually die, so it was built first. An order is only counted as filled when the tape actually printed at that price. Nothing fills because a bar reached it.
Full test, January to July 2026
Trades7,137
Win rate63.6%
Profit factor1.84
Average per trade0.17%
Average hold6m 7s
Maximum drawdown0.9%

2. Two months in full

We kept per-trade output for June and July. Everything below comes out of those two files.
June 2026July 2026
Sessions2122
Trades8901,126
Trades per session42.451.2
Win rate67%62.4%
Profit factor2.481.75
Average per trade0.242%0.153%
Average hold378s390s
Return on capital used10.2%8.2%
Maximum drawdown0.4%0.6%
Sessions in profit20 of 2119 of 22
The ordering matters more than the numbers. June is where the idea was found, so June is not evidence of anything. July was run once, afterwards, with nothing changed. That single run is the only honest test in the table, and it came back weaker than June, which is what you would expect and also what you would hope for.

3. What we already went after

The obvious suspicion is a few lucky names. It is not that. June traded 466 symbols and the three best of them account for 9.7% of the total; July traded 532 and its top three account for 8.7%. Removing them changes very little. The shape of the edge is unglamorous. Winners average 0.605% in June against losers at 0.494%, and in July it is 0.57% against 0.54%. That gap is thin. The result lives on the hit rate, not on the size of the good trades, which also means it would not survive a win rate a few points lower. Resampling the trade sequence puts June somewhere between 5,196 and 7,766 dollars against an actual 6,488, and July between 3,686 and 6,701 against 5,198. Both actuals sit inside their interval rather than perched at the top of it. One detail we noticed and cannot explain away as design: the two months needed almost exactly the same capital, 63,468 dollars in June and 63,457 in July, with 21 positions open at the busiest moment in both. Average concurrency was 7.96 and 9.66.

4. The part that bothers us

A 0.9% maximum drawdown across 7,137 trades is the number we do not believe yet. There is an innocent explanation. Twenty-one positions, six minutes each, spread across five hundred symbols is a lot of small independent bets, and that does flatten an equity curve. July's longest losing streak was 14 trades and it still barely dented the total. There is also a guilty explanation, which is that something in the accounting is too kind and we have not found it. We have been through fill logic, costs, lookahead, position accounting, overlapping positions and universe selection. Nothing has fallen out. That is not the same as nothing being there. The rest of what is unsettled is easier to state. Two months of per-trade detail is not seven. Our fill rule is conservative but it is still a rule: an order we count as filled had a print at that price, and a real one would also have needed to sit somewhere in a queue we cannot see. And none of it has been traded with real money, so everything above is a reconstruction.

5. What you can do with it

It is yours to run. Your own recordings, your own sessions, your own machine, and no obligation to tell us anything. If you do feel like poking at it, the drawdown is the interesting place to start. Change the position cap, change the capital, take it across a stretch we have not touched, and see whether the curve stays this flat. We would rather one of you found the crack now than none of us found it later. The fill assumptions are the other soft spot. If they hold up worse on your data than on ours, that is worth more to all of us than another run that agrees. And a run that goes nowhere is still a result. Those are the ones we would most like to hear about, and there is nothing embarrassing about sending one.

6. What we ask, and what this is not

We do ask one thing in return. Keep the details inside this group: the conditions and settings sent to you are not for posting, forwarding, screenshotting or describing elsewhere, and that includes paraphrasing them somewhere public. A strategy of this kind stops working once enough people run it, which is the whole reason for asking, and there is no polite way to dress that up. If you want to talk about it with someone who is not in this group, talk about the fact that we are testing something, not about what it does. It also only runs on the one-second frame in our app. That is not a preference. Everything above was measured on one-second recordings replayed through our engine, with fills decided against the recorded quote and the printed tape, and the app is what produces and replays those recordings. Minute bars are not a coarser view of the same thing. They are a different measurement, and a number produced from them is not this number. If you run it on anything other than the one-second frame, whatever you get back is not a test of this. This is not investment advice. It is not a recommendation, not a solicitation, and not a managed product. We are not telling anyone to trade it, and we are not going to tell you it works, because we do not yet believe our own drawdown figure. TraderWe is a tool for measuring and testing, and what we are handing over is an unfinished measurement. We may change it, we may find the flaw ourselves next week, and we may drop it entirely. Whatever you do with it is your decision and your risk, with money you can afford to be wrong with. Backtested results are a reconstruction of what a rule would have done against recorded data, and every reconstruction carries assumptions that can be wrong.

7. Sample accounting

The full test runs from January 2 to July 31, 2026, restricted to 09:30 to 11:00 ET, on one-second recordings replayed through our own engine. June and July come from the two retained result files, 21 and 22 sessions, with July drawing on 22 session files. Capital, drawdown and return are measured against the capital the schedule actually required rather than an assumed account size. Numbers in sections 2 and 3 are read straight out of those files. Section 1 is the total for the full period as previously reported. Thank you for being here early. This is the part of the work we would only hand to people who were.
For our founding members: 7,137 trades, doubts included

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Originally published by TraderWe on August 31, 2026. You may quote and link to this page. Republishing the full text without a link back to the original is not permitted.

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FiveMinFiona· 19d ago
Thank you for sending this to us first, that means a lot. I've got recordings going back a while so I'll set aside an evening this week and put it through my own setup. Will report back either way.
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RiskFirstRita· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
Thanks for putting the doubt at the front instead of burying it. Only thing I'd say, and you've half said it yourselves: a drawdown figure from a reconstruction isn't a risk limit yet, so nobody here should be sizing off 0.9% until it's met real money.
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SpreadWatcher· 19d ago
building the fill side before anything else is not the order most people do it in.
BacktestBetty· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
Really pleased to see this, and pleased in particular about the ordering you flagged. Finding it in June and then running July once, afterwards, with nothing touched, is the way round that actually means something, and it's the bit most write-ups quietly reverse. That July came back weaker rather than stronger is exactly the direction you'd want it to fall.
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QuietVol· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
Grateful for this. You kept per-trade output for June and July only, so I wanted to ask about the other five months, is there any aggregate left from them at all, or is it just the headline totals now?
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HalfKelly· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
Nice work getting this to us in one piece. The 63,468 against 63,457 with 21 open at the peak in both months is an odd little coincidence to sit with, and I understand why you'd rather flag it than tidy it away.
ZenTrader_Ana· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
Putting the number you distrust in its own heading rather than a footnote says something.
GrandpaGrizzly· 19d ago
Thirty odd years of reading these and near enough all of them found room for the good half only. Nobody ever wrote me a section four. Stay humble.
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LurkerLee· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
cheers. did June and July run on the same symbol universe?
MLcurious· 19d ago
cannot believe we're actually getting the rules sent over!! joined on a whim months ago and now this. thank you!!
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DrawdownDave· 19d ago
Been on the receiving end of very confident numbers more than once, usually my own. A report that says out loud it hasn't touched real money is a nicer thing to read than it sounds. Thanks.
CryptoKarl· 19d ago
logging on late and this is a good thing to find. joined back when there was nothing to join and mostly forgot about it, first time that's felt like it was worth doing
TraderWeTraderWe Team· 19d ago· edited 19d ago
One request: let's not carry this on here. This page is public. The post can stay that way, but the replies are where it gets specific, and that is the part we asked you to keep inside the group. There is a Founding Members board in the left menu as of today. It opens only for accounts with a founding number, it is not indexed, and it does not appear in any of the public lists. Everything that follows from this belongs there: your own runs, the drawdown figure, and the rule set we sent you to test with. On what that rule set is, since it matters: it is a set of backtest rules for you to reproduce and try to break, on recorded data, in software you already have. It is not a recommendation to trade anything, it is not a signal, and it is not advice. We have not traded it with real money and we have said we do not believe our own drawdown figure yet. Whether you run it at all, and with what, is your decision and your risk. The two questions above are answered on that board rather than here. This post stays up unchanged.
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